There’s another community already for patient gamers here: !patientgamers@lemmy.ml.

Consider consolidating to just one community to not split our relatively small group.

I’ve joined both, but will probably be more active at the other.

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    I don’t think it’s a “dupe”. The same community can have different rules or expectations or culture in different places, and eventually, people will settle down where they feel comfortable. For some, that’s the most populated place, for others, the one that aligns best with their own interests and vibe.

    Personally, I’d rather not get invested in the .ml place, considering who’s running the instance.

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      Exactly, and when/if we get a way to group them together “multireddit style”, then it’s going to be even less of an issue hopefully.

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    I imagine there will be many duplicates of several subs over the next while. That means Highlander rules will eventually go into effect!

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      Fair, and I’m completely expecting that, which is why I’ve subbed to several related communities with the expectation that I’ll be culling that list.

      That said, sometimes communities can be hard to find, and the other already seemed to have good engagement, so it seemed like a good place to point people toward.

      I just wish there was a better way to vet the admins of each community and the owners of each instance. I’m happy to create my own instance if needed, but I’d rather build a community than build an instance.

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    That’s right. However, as demonstrated in the links provided by GarlicFries, lemmy.ml is owned by people that are complacent or downright supportive of tankies. By creating another community on sh.itjust.works, the goal was specifically to pick an instance that blocks lemmygrad.

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      And just in case people don’t feel like reading through the links.

      Here’s an announcement from lemmygrad themselves.

      We’ll go through each account application with due diligence, but we would like you to know before you request an account that Lemmygrad is a Marxist instance, principally Marxist-Leninist. We like Stalin and we uphold the DPRK’s sovereignty and legitimacy over the whole of Korea. We love China’s Socialism with Chinese Characteristics

      https://web.archive.org/web/20230608014753/https://lemmygrad.ml/post/668436

      And some comments from posters there

      By experience, most internet users who self-identified as Communists and oppose Stalin tend to be either brainwashed people in countries that are under the rule of Westen European diaspora or trolling bots. Is there any real Communists who actually oppose Stalin? Stalin receive the most slander in Western European diaspora because he refused the destruction of USSR through an unsustainable war against Fascism and he forced the desolution of alliance by British and French empires with Hitler’s Nazi Germany. The Liberals complained about the non-agreession pact between Stalin and Hitler, even when the Western European empires forced Stalin to make the peace pact, that buy time for war preparation by USSR against Hitler at a time when USSR is too underindustrialized and too devasted from the Russian civial war that was more damaging than World War 1.

      DPR Korea isn’t sovereign over the whole of Korea. Not yet, anyway. Hopefully soon.

      And from reddit a user had this to say about lemmygrad.ml and lemmy.ml ties

      Lemmygrad is/was hosted on the same IP as Lemmy.ml, which is publicly run by the head developer. Lemmygrad is very clearly owned by the same tankies that develop the platform.

      https://web.archive.org/web/20230612054146/https://old.reddit.com/r/Lemmy/comments/142h1a5/choosing_an_instance_and_my_issues_with_lemmygrad/jnanc0o/

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          Nothing a hard fork can’t fix :D

          EDIT: in the git sense, not literally stabbing people with a hard fork

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          Hardly dumb. Offer a free and open space you secretly have a back door into and let it get populated. This happens all the time. A recent example would be some crypto exchanges that were secure and anonymous that suddenly disappeared with all the accounts.

          I’m sure you can think of other examples too!

          -edit- At first I thought it was just satire, related to “communism” thing, more just anti Laissez-faire monopoly capitalism(yes I had to google how to spell that repeatedly!). But…wow, I’m the one that is nieve it seems!

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          Open source is similar in spirit with communism, which is all about equality of access to resource (or in this case, source codes). Like in communism, you could say some comrades are more equals than others.

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    I don’t think trying to centralize a community that relies on a decentralized platform is a very great idea. I get what you’re going for but I think the little pocket communities add a layer of safety from bad actors.

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      Oh, I’m all for having more communities, I just posted this at a time when this community had a handful of people in it, and the other was also fairly small (<100 IIRC). I didn’t want people to assume that there should be a copy of each community on each instance, which kind of defeats the point of federation.

      I think it’s a good idea to have a few alternatives so if there are issues (e.g. defederation, bad mods, instance goes down), people have an established community to go to. But the preference should be for fewer, larger communities than tons of really small communities. Even in Reddit, we had several gaming communities (/r/games, /r/gaming, /r/patientgamers, etc), and that was a great thing! But if there’s 100, that’s a bit much.