• Ookami38@sh.itjust.works
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      It’s a pretty common thing to say certain bands aren’t metal, as an elitist gatekeeping thing. Baby Metal is one that often, people will say “isn’t metal” because they’re cute girls in Gothic Lolita fashion. It’s a pretty common assumption that anyone laughing at baby Metal is just being an elitist.

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        I don’t care for baby metal but it’s because of their fans primarily.

        Look, I love Nekrogoblikon so I am not one to hold my nose in derision over a shtick.

        Babymetal are super talented, The music is pretty good too it’s just not for me.

        It’s not MY type of metal but if I have that opinion around one of their fans I get the “oh you’re an elitist” speech when in reality every fan I’ve known of Baby Metal has been kinda icky and shitty about them not being in my top 5.

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            Metallica is on the map too, so they’re in good company with a like group.

            Baby Metal is an idol group which … yeah, that’s the genre

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          I mean, they’re not my top choice either, but there’s a HIGE difference in your approach, “not my cup of tea”, and the gatekeeper approach of “it’s not real reeee”. Everyone has taste, but there’s some kind of weird pride over something being metal, or not metal, and it’s just super shitty to attack something someone loves, just because it’s not your thing.

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              9 months ago

              I mean, that’s fair. I don’t think that’s a valid reason to go gatekeeper, just live and let live, but I get it.

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                Oh shit I’m not gatekeeping or trying to, I was just conversing with ya. I say listen to whatever gets you off

                I’ve seen what you’re saying for sure though but I argue it’s anyone who is passionate about something likes to walk their garden off and throw up a gate.

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                  9 months ago

                  I know you’re not, personally. I’m just providing counterargument.

                  My counterargument to that is, why wall your garden off? Why not share the beauty you’ve found or built with others? Maybe see what their gardens are like?

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          I do care for babymetal because gimme chocolate is a fucking banger, corporate as it is. I like genre-crossing stuff when it’s done well, like that or any mix by Bill McClintock (especially his Motown or Soul mixed with classic metal/hard rock), even Run DMC and Aerosmith, just for another example. Or stuff like Billy Strings.

          I mean, babymetal is nowhere near my top 5, I’m not even sure they’re in my top 5 Japanese metal bands (Sete Star Sept is Ichiban), but I do like em.

          But for real thanks for letting me know about Nekrogoblin, idk how I hadn’t heard this before.

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        9 months ago

        I’m not into metal. It’s just interesting how 150 of them fit expectations and a handful don’t. I’m not gate keeping.

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      9 months ago

      I’m downvoting for specifically picking out Parkway Drive as if it’s not clearly Australia’s best metal band.

      (this comment surely won’t end up being controversial either lol)

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        That’s a weird way to spell Caligula’s Horse. Jkjk, I’ve never listened to parkway drive, they probably kick ass, I just have a soft spot for chorse.

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        Oh, are you interpreting their comment as saying that these bands don’t deserve to be popular?

        I think, they’re rather saying that the names themselves are humorous, like I don’t speak any South African language, but I have to assume that band intentionally stringed together tons of letters.
        Similarly, a drive on a parkway is rather mundane, whereas a metal band’s music is usually quite the opposite…

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          It’s all relative to popularity. If it was about Rock and said AC/DC for Australia who would go hahahah AC/DC what a stupid name lololol are they making music about rectifiers? Parkway Drive is just one example that I was personally rolling my eyes over hard, but how is White Rat not a suitable name for a metal band?! To me it’s just being deliberately ignorant, that’s the whole joke, I don’t know these bands, such stupid names.

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          like I don’t speak any South African language, but I have to assume that band intentionally stringed together tons of letters.

          Its even worse than that, as the OP posted above, its an acronym made to be as disgusting as they could come up with. Its honestly a bit impressive, but not that surprising considering the genre.

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            9 months ago

            Well, yeah, for something to be humorous, it often works best to be the polar opposite…