Cegorach

yeah, I get that.

I have no problem with the article itself - the headline is still stupid though.

so it’s not the “electric” part that’s the problem in norway

it’s still better than combustion engines

stupid headline!

you could buy that - but you decided on philips cloud crap instead?

well that and it’s different chemistry (lead vs lithium)

…aaaand EVs have those old lead-acid batteries too. (btw: we should finally ditch those for LiFePo or similar)

fire

and the burning ship

a couple thousands cars, sixteenhundred tons of fat oil and two-hundred tons of marine diesel.

Nothing.

There’s nothing out there.

Just sea and birds and fish.

So, how would you do that on a ship built to be filled by two ramps?

on a ship of that type? yes, I do.

and look surprisingly similar to the one in those articles :D

how do you think those cars were loaded into the ship? by crane?

Small cars from the 80s/90s are a death trap even at slow speeds and making them safe requires them to be bigger

it’s probably not the 90s you’re thinking about.

90s cars had airbags, large crumple zones and seat belts. Those were pretty safe already. Maybe you are thinking 60s and 70s?

Yes, 90s cars were fucked if hit by 3t of steel at 180km/h, yes. But so are current cars.

And less heavy cars that run into you, made less safety needed. So if we were to build only light (say sub 1t and driving 80km/h max) cars to modern standards, we would all be way better off. But people are assholes, so that won’t happen.

No. Out of the environment!

So it’s no longer in an environment.

I mean statistics are clear on that one… :D

totally correct

If you read the actual article by a journalist they don’t say it’s a certainty. Maybe the problem is people like you who can’t tell a journalist from a random guy.

did you even read what I wrote?

I specifically said that journalists are writing “there’s no proof that it wasn’t” and that other people are reading “it was” into it.

It’s exactly that. People are unable to read/understand.

I said there might have been aliens, testing new beam weapons - anything is possible.

we’ll never know‽ /s

and a burning car is a whole lot of burning material

it’s not a tiny piece of wood - in many cases you’ll detect it first, when there’s actually a whole lot and flames/smoke escaping from the car.

that’s the fun thing - unless you remove every last drop, emptying the gas tank makes it MORE dangerous, not less.

liquid gas in enclosed containers is actually pretty harmless. But leaking fluids mixtures of gas and air are explosive.

good luck doing it with a burning gas powered car!