I do support the argument that further complexifying essentials before the great decomplexification is a bad idea. However, burning a ton of fossil fuels to build alternative power sources is not a solution unless it is basically free energy - renewable alone is not sufficient justification. We need volitional degrowth. We won’t get it, but that’s what we need.
Not to diminish any particular arguments, but this is how these conversations always play out in my view:
Stop burning fossil fuels.
But we are in overshoot.
Yes
But we won’t be able to keep up agriculture.
Yes
But we won’t be able to keep up industry
Yes
But we won’t be able to keep up consumerism
Yes
But people will die.
Yes :(
But the rich will loses their riches
Yes
but but but
It doesn’t matter what the cost is, that’s the solution. The rest is simply consequence - and it grows greater by each day we ignore it.
Just because an ask is nigh impossible, does not mean that it is foolish or that it comes from ignorance.
c/collapse… such a lovely sound to it, even here at the end of civilization.
(refering to having decentralized from r/spaces)
The elite are trying to whip everyone back to the office to avoid a commercial real estate crash.
Yes, but I’m surprised the author doesn’t even mention CMBSs.
I saw a headline this morning that hedge fund managers are bullish on diesel. And the logic here seems to check out from what I skimmed. Will be interesting to see how this develops. A consumption downturn might kick the can out further.