As r/selfhosted seems to have shutdown due to the reddit api changes (rip), I wanted to see if anyone has worked with these services before?

How do they compare to Discord and how hard is it to maintain, as the setup looks pretty in depth for matrix and synapse. How did you convince your user base to use it over Discord.

I’ve hosted TS3 for about 8 years and are looking for alternatives, as we have to use Discord for screen sharing.

Thanks!

  • slacktoid@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    2 years ago

    I do. I’ve been hosting it for 3 years now. I have seen them add new features rapidly, and it’s pretty exciting, things can (rarely) break sometimes (cause you didn’t read the upgrade notes before upgrading).

    They had something called communities, which they scrapped for Spaces. Spaces are more akin to a server on Discord for the most part. I don’t use Discord too much, so there could be some features missing that I have not noticed.

    I didn’t intend to bring them to me, I intended to go to them using bridges. If you have a Discord server, investigate how to bridge to that discord server (either personally via double puppeting bridges or maintain a complete copy of the server using relay bridges). This way over time you can bring people over to your matrix instance cause these companies do mess up (at this point its not will its when). Similar with signal, googlechat etc.

    It is fun and fairly easy.

  • mwlczk@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 years ago

    Matrix has one caveat: it synchronizes every room (group chat) from another instance to your instance fully- which one user subscribed to on your instance. Because of this the instance-systems/servers are under heavy load for private userage (not controllable number of users and chats). Many governmental institutions (controllable number of users and chats) use though, because in case of “disasters/incidents” the data is not lost but saved all over all replicas.

  • Nick@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    2 years ago

    I run ejabberd for myself and my family/friend and use conversations on android. Mattermost I would say is the most like discord. I run one of those as well and love it.

    • sneakyninjapants@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      2 years ago

      I think ejabberd or another other xmpp server would have been my first choice for a service like this by a long shot. If only we had some good iOS clients to go to. While I’m on android, most of the family and some of the friends use iOS, so it was kind of a non-starter from that alone.

      Edit: log -> long

      • Nick@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        2 years ago

        Yeah unfortunately iOS is very stingy with battery. Thankfully there’s a few apps that use apples push and ejabberd supports it. I haven’t tested them in a while tho since I’m on android.

        Mattermost is great and I’m pretty sure they have an iOS app. I don’t believe the messages are encrypted on MM, but if you’re running the infra it’s not too big of a deal IMHO.

  • savoy@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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    2 years ago

    For Matrix, I’d recommend conduit over synapse, with the expectation that all of synapse’s features haven’t yet been added (most notably support for spaces, which may or may not be a dealbreaker).

    It’s incredibly easy to set-up and very lightweight. I never self-hosted synapse due to how resource-heavy it is, and constantly had issues with dendrite racking up resources as well.conduit has honestly been the easiest thing I’ve self-hosted.

    • DaGeek247@kbin.social
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      2 years ago

      What front-end are you running with conduit? I just spent two hours trying to get element to talk to it but i’ve put it off due to so much failure with it.

  • poVoq@slrpnk.netEnglish
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    2 years ago

    Mumble in combination with XMPP is the most hassle free and low resource option. Just for small personal use snikket.org XMPP is probably the best.

    Matrix Synapse also works, but if you join any large rooms it will blow up ram and storage space usage, thus I can’t really recommend it.

  • Jeena@jemmy.jeena.netEnglish
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    2 years ago

    I’ve been hosting it for myself for a couple of years and once you set it up it’s without problems. I wanted to consolidate all my chats like WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, etc. into one UI and the bridges allow me to do that.

    Discord has a proprietary license so I never considered it.

    • knF@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 years ago

      Sounds really interesting! Could you please indicate what are you selfhosting exactly in order to achieve this?

      • Jeena@jemmy.jeena.netEnglish
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        2 years ago
        • For the server I use synapse and I use their deb package so it upgrades itself with the whole system when I do a apt upgrade
        • For the bridges there are different solutions, most of them can be found here https://docs.mau.fi/bridges/go/setup.html (<- the onel written in go) and https://docs.mau.fi/bridges/python/setup.html (the ones written in python)
        • Some bridges you don’t need to host yourself because there are some public ones available via the Element UI

        But remember that bridges terminate end to end encryption and there are some pitfalls with that. For some background info you can watch a video I made some time ago: https://tube.jeena.net/w/rYhp4ZT5Ykw1aBGqMr62KG

        • knF@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 years ago

          Thanks a lot for the reply @jeena@jemmy.jeena.net, much appreciated. I’m watching the video right now, thanks for sharing your personal experience on hosting the services and the security considerations, good to know! I was between happy and surprised to see that the video is on PeerTube, way to go, thanks for promoting the Fediverse. 👍

          Not 100% sure if I want to go through this hole now 🤣