• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    Name one person that either enjoys or doesn’t mind being stuck in traffic. Your example of the worst case scenario being an accident is a problem that is caused by car-centric infrastructure.

    Density is not ugly nor does it lack character, that’s an absurd statement. Ugly things can be dense, but to claim that Density itself is ugly is absurd.

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      Ah yes you can’t seem to understand out of the over 7 billion people on this planet, they all must share your opinion.

      Nice bubble you live in.

      And hey, I love it, now you do know one. But I’m not the only one and to claim that would be the asinine and absurd thing. Not to think that someone could have a differing opinion. You realize lots of people CHOOSE to live in these cities and aren’t forcedor anything yeah? Just because you feel that way doesn’t mean everyone does, sorry. And sorry I forgot you can’t seem to comprehend this, maybe I should drop this extremely obvious point that pokes flaws in your view….

      Nice community you have here lmfao.

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        “No you don’t understand, because there are a bunch of people, the majority loves excruciating pain and CBT.”

        You’re arguing for inefficient and slow infrastructure on the grounds that efficiency is bad and inefficiency is fun for you personally.

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          I’m saying it can all exist together if you were actually paying attention.

          And comparing a minor inconvenience to torture, that’ll get people to understand your side… good job!

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            You’re saying people love inconvenience and that’s why everyone should bend over backwards to support the overwhelmingly inconvenient infrastructure to maintain inefficient and inconvenient traditions.

            It’s anti-science and anti-progress, lol

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              I’m saying some people can get over a minor inconvenience. You do when you take a slower method of transport like public, walking or biking.

              So yeah YOU can love an inconvenience, but others can’t…? Shit take yet again…

              You’re ignoring that it can be done correctly and is in some places. Why do people always conveniently do this?

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                11 months ago

                It isn’t a minor inconvenience. It completely ruins infrastructure, eliminates vast amounts of space, destroys the environment, and sucks people’s time.

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                  The infrastructure can all work together, it can take up no more space than it does now, it can even be done in less. It won’t destroy the environment if it’s done correctly, why is every rebuttal of yours just hand waving that can also just be handwaved away?

                  The freedom to go when and where takes less time actually, bad infrastructure makes it take longer. Public transport will never be faster and more convenient than personal travel. I scan stop on a whim where I want, if public transport did that it work take hours. That’s why fast transports like mag trains stop so infrequently with large stops. Buses go from there and there is other options, but it’s all guess what, time…….

                  Private transport will always be most time economical, it’s hilarious that you think that’s a valid point on your side.

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                    No it cannot. Car centric infrastructure necessarily destroys the environment far more and takes up far more space.

                    I’m not hand-waving your points, I’m pointing out why they are terrible points.

                    The rest of your comment is baseless and rejects reality. Proper public transit is faster and doesn’t require vast amounts of space, and with proper urban planning you can go anywhere you want whenever you want. You can’t with cars, it takes forever to get where you need to go, because cars carry far less people per square meter.

                    You have no points at all, just vibes.