I choose to remain anonymous
The cultural defeat is so strong that people here are equating transparent and responsible leadership with corporate governance, lol. As if volunteer or small-project admins couldn’t be serious or good.
I haven’t claimed to be silenced by anyone at the moment. I’m just tired of like 10 people stating the obvious “join other instance” as if I didn’t know it beforehand and said I was thinking of doing that same thing since my very first post; or stating that I shouldn’t be demanding anything from the admins (not even reasons or transparency?)
I don’t think I’m being aggressive at all, I do think this community is way to defensive about any criticism to this particular measure, and I think it is due to a deeply ingrained censorship culture that sites like Reddit and Facebook groups greatly normalized in the internet.
To me leadership and administration is in place to serve the people. The people managing this server are essentially providing a service whether for free or whatever. It is totally OK to raise concerns, questions and demand changes. I think most people just feel reassured of having that instance blocked because it matches their worldview.
That seems reasonable if that’s the case. In the future I’d like to be part of a community where if admins take such decisions bordering censorship, they have a public log explaining why they do it. Legal, hosting issues, spam, are all valid reasons to me. I guess at this size it’s also reasonable to lack such protocols, but it’s important to have them.
Following your logic all the people that protested the API where wrong by demanding the leadership to not fuck the platform? Lol
Look at the discussion in other instances, for example
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/99601
Yet most the answers this thread has been receiving essentially consist of “stfu & gtfo”, if I end up leaving it’s not going to be just because of the admin decisions but much more because of the poor userbase that does not care about holding admins accountable and retaining control. I don’t even blame the admins at this point.
So tldr “stfu and gtfo”? I can get outta here and, been saying it from the beginning, I probably will, but I won’t be silent about it.
Bro I am already planning on making my own for other reasons. What’s the matter with someone asking questions or reasons for a ban? I know I can leave and probably will. This is a much needed conversation. Don’t like when users let themselves to be treated as babies. That’s why corporations do what they want with us.
Thanks for pointing the obvious but this is about having a conversation. Users should not let admins impose their views and accept it as normal. That’s why subreddit mods where acting like tyrants.
Even if I create an acc in another instance and forget about this one, I raised questions. You guys are free to draw your conclusions.
Yes, I regularly block communities from my feed. It is my decision. I am not delegating this decision to the admins. What’s the line? I already mentioned: overall security, spam, legal issues, totally fine to me.
All I’m doing is to ask questions and express discomfort about the server owner restricting my access and you guys get all defensive
Ok and where’s the announcement? Where’s the explanation? There’s just a lack of transparency. I already mentioned there might be valid reasons but this clearly seems worldview/politically motivated.
That’s why I made this post. Want to see transparency on why they blocked an instance. Honestly if the guys running this want Reddit 2 with all the oversanitization I think I’m going to set my main acc on another instance.
I also know how to create an account in several instances. It’s not about technical issues, it is about the culture.
So, a political thing? And why I’m not allowed to see denialist content? Am I a baby? You feel like a baby that needs parental control from admins?
Sorry for the hostility but that’s what this boils down to. Admin decisions over users. And I don’t care about whatever political/worldview controversy they use to base their abuse of power.
Yes I surely know it’s not “a big deal” and I already said I will leave on my post.
But I won’t be silent about it. This is about the culture of the platform itself.
This instance has been receiving a lot of newcomers like me, and to me this is not OK. It is not OK to let the admins decide the content you’ll receive.
If instances keep defederating from each other, you’re fostering a culture of censorship and isolation where admins decide over users.
Enjoy your echo chamber / tyranny as any other subreddit where mods did what they wanted with you.
Culture is more important than software.
Yeah, that’s why I don’t like much how they are using this place to repost memes or tweets. It’s not content I really like, a written thought like yours will always be more genuine and personalized.
Thanks for your answer.
I understand, I assume it was during all that backlash against Lemmy and the devs, when even r/LemmyMigration mods created r/KbinMigration and closed that one due to the devs political affiliation and moderation policy.
Lemmygrad doesn’t seem to be a very friendly instance unless you have those specific political loyalties, and it seems self-isolating as well to an extent, I just want to foster a culture of not letting anyone control what you see or what you can say, and also a culture of accountability and feedback. I just think thats what makes communities alive and good.
I understand (and it’s something kind of ingrained in the Lemmy logic itself) this idea that you have to just join an instance taking into account things like politics. But I like the idea of having more neutral spaces, for example if you see why some users like your instance, they perceive it as an “apolitical”, “chill” place with a good technical leadership.
As you say it’s a personal conviction, maybe you thought your own instance should reflect your values and not federate with those that you don’t like. But right now, don’t you think that essentially mean limiting the access to the information? It’s not “big deal”, yes, they can create another account, but why? Why is it so needed?
I think you could perfectly run the instance and let everybody block what they don’t want to see, and moderate on individual basis until circumstances require otherwise.