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  • Parking lots waste a lot of area that could be green space too.

    But yes overdevelpment could be a problem , but is easily fixed by adding a green space rule to development. Like we have now for minimum parking and such.

    Also high speed roads destroy a lot of green space too, with nothing in the median or a good chunk on either side, and huge empty areas in dead zones of interchanges.

    Lets not think cuurent car use is good for green space.



  • I dont mean throw out zoning entirely, but reducing the way they promote single family housing only. I live in a county with a million people and 84% of the land is single family zoning only, I want to throw that bit out.

    Also if done right you dont need to zoning for all those things. Transit development will drive denser, walkable areas all on its own if its legal to build those kinds of areas. All the city has to do it manage transit as these areas develop.






  • Driving requires courtesy and attention, but overreliance on cars make people the opposite.

    People get frustrated driving in traffic, causing them to be rude and agressive.

    Meanwhile if driving is the only way to get around, even for easily distracted people or busy or whatever, they are not going to pay proper attention. Safety features like blind spot detection and automatic crash avoidance just make people pay even less attention.

    You say the problem isn’t cars, but it is because in america cars are the only way to get around for most trips.

    If you make other options more conpelling or faster, than these problems are less severe for those left on the road.






  • Ah I understand, let me be more specific, and answer some questions.

    When it comes to farming, we don’t put farmland in cities, in rural areas cars do make sense.

    Energy generation doesn’t have to be done in cities either.

    As for sewage, yeah it takes up space in cities because you can’t tranport it out, but it’s small compared to the entire city.

    The parts that are unsustainable are the vast swaths of single family homes.

    The maintenance costs for these areas, in the form of electcity, water, sewage, roads, are higher than the tax revenues generated by property taxes.

    It takes a long time for this tax deficit to show, about 30ish years, and it can be delayed by builidng and developing new suburbs. The taxes from the sales and other newness generate some new income. The federal government will also subsidizie a lot a building a new road, but notably not maintaing them. Which after 30 years can be more than the road would cost to build new!

    But after a while the maintenance comes due, roads fill with potholes and need replacing, sewer and water pipes start leaking due to wear, or even the ground moving. Electricity lines blow over, knocked by trees, or hit by drivers need to be fixed.

    The cost of roads and car dependency is not cheap. A study came out that it costs Americans an average of $20k a year for car dependency. About half that is owning a car, and the other half is taxes spent on road infrastructure.

    https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/01/massachusetts-car-economy-costs-64-billion-study-finds/

    In just slightly denser areas, where the government hadn’t regulated things like setbacks, minimum parking requirements, and soley single family housing, there is enough revenue.

    So what ends up happening is these denser areas subsidizie car dependent suburbs.

    And all the while suburbs with car only transportation have tons of traffic, because when you get down to it, a single lane of cars just can’t move that many people.

    Now there are some exceptions to this. I live in an area with astonishingpy high property values, nearing 1 million for a normal house. This generates a lot of revenue, but it creates an housing affordability problem. This problem would be alleviated if there was increased density if the local government didn’t zone 84% of the land into single family housing only.

    And it would still increase tax revenues in my area.