Actually, nobody goes to heaven when they die (according to the bible). Everyone must wait until judgement day when all the graves, etc, open and we all face judgement at that point. This surprised me when I first learned it because it goes against all the Christian culture I’ve ever been taught and experienced.
So grandma isn’t currently in heaven no matter how good she was.
Thats a pretty sophisticated bit of analysis, particularly for Lemmy.
I still find it amazing that the vote will be as close as it undoubtedly will become. I mean, Trump is not only for himself, but he is also plainly destructive. He’s now touting the low-information ‘Joe Rogan vote’. Young white guys who haven’t been following anything.
This subsequent post of yours is more substantial in explaining your position and I generally agree with all of your points.
My post was with the absurdist position that critiquing the Biden performance around the time of the last debate made you an enemy of progressive politics. Joe had fired his last good shot in 2016. He’s a good man, a heroic fighter for his age but Trump was always going to steamroll him this time. It doesn’t matter that Joe had a cold, or that he sometimes made excellent policy points, the optics were that he was meandering and frail. It wasn’t that the debate done him in by itself - Obama sometimes had a bad debate (particularly his first one) it was that his performance on the night confirmed what was evident for months. By the time Joe started arguing with Trump about who could beat who in golf the jig was up.
Despite Trump’s own senior moments, despite his atrocious behaviour, despite his obvious lies, the feeling was Joe is doomed. And so was the most important election since last time, and that says a lot. The fact that it is not impossible that he still won’t get in again is beyond worrying. But with Harris there is a decent chance.
I hope that clears up my position? It was more a vent against all those who insisted that we ride the Joe bus over the cliff and disbelieve our own eyes while we did it.
I think that your metrics for picking covert Trumpers based upon that appaling debate is incorrect and simplistic. I watched every second of that shit show and believed that we were doomed for another 4 years of the orange turd.
Trump lied during the debate. Some estimates were that he lied upwards of 250 times in his 45 minutes at the mic. Those numbers seems off, but who knows? I don’t know the true figure, but it was insane. However, it is also not the fucking point. Trump is a serial liar. He lies to his family, he lies to the people, he lies to the courts, he lies non-stop. He would have lied if Biden performed outstandingly in the debate. He would have lied if Biden put in a middling performance. And, he lied when Biden performed badly. Are we supposed to be clutching our pearls in shock that Trump lied?
So, we can’t judge Biden’s terrible performance by the ‘other guy’. We need to judge whether Biden could win in November. And if you had of watched all 90 minutes, like I did, there was zero confidence that he could. The GOP campaign would have portrayed Biden’s lost moments a million times, over and over and over again. And they’d be stupid not to. And yes, Trump lied in the debate. Let’s try and turn the broken bus around on the seemingly new information that a serial liar lied on stage.
The proof of this was the instant jump in the polls once Harris became the candidate and the growing support since. Is the argument that all these covert GOP critics suddenly turned Dems? Or, perhaps, changing to Haris was the sensible thing to do, and perhaps, just might keep the orange turd out of the white house.
By all means, go and enjoy your snuff films.
Yes, they will probably have some defences. They have some defences for IEDs now, but people still get blown up.
I couldn’t be clearer in what I said. If you don’t understand my point of view I suggest that you reread my statements.
On the other hand, if you don’t agree with me, then that’s fine as well.
I know these vids exist. Not sure what I’m expected to say?
I’m pissing in the wind, but I think that anybody promoting such films is a fucking loser. I don’t really care what uniform the victim is wearing.
If rules don’t matter, then why have any rules? Just everyone kill everyone, military, civilian, women and children?
Or, stop giving sermons about how bad the other guy is when each side chases down a terrified conscript with a explosive toy.
Or, at the very least, perhaps not film the results like some kind of sick snuff film? I question the morality and humanity of anybody who enjoy that shit.
Sounds like a justification for murder.
“We’re bad, they’re worse”.
I’m not arguing about the Ukrainians defending themselves, but the methods on both sides are pretty shitty.
If you are intent on drone murder, own it without pleading. Doesn’t matter which side you’re on.
Well said… Very well said.
I’m an Australian.
In the first world war the Australian’s had an iron clad rule, one well known to the Germans. If Australians managed to reach the enemy’s trenches in an assault, they refused to accept a machine gunner’s surrender.
You don’t get to shoot down your opponents from relative safety and then expect mercy at the very end. Machine Gunners were an elite force of the German Army. They wore special patches denoting their status. That is, the gunner’s not facing the Australian lines. Those machine gunners tended not to wear their status on their uniform. They tended not to survive capture if they did.
There was an element of hypocrisy in all this too. The Australians also had machine gun battalions. But the difference was that we accepted the rules. Perhaps if drone operators started getting shot out of hand on capture it wouldn’t be so bad? Seems reasonable to me.
That’s a legitimate argument.
I still don’t buy it for the reasons already mentioned.
I hope so, Brother.
Thanks man. Many will consider me naive, and perhaps I am?
I just get no joy in seeing these vids even if the Russians put themselves in harm’s way. Some didn’t, but we’re forced at the point of a gun. Shitty way to go in either case.
Peace out.
Don’t imagine that this won’t happen to the US regardless how they choose to fight. It doesn’t matter. You can just take out key personal, like officers, or specialis? It doesn’t have to be human wave attacks. Anyway, I haven’t seen too many human wave attacks in the videos. Just individual poor conscripts forced into the service getting their balls blown of by some gamer safe behind the lines.
Don’t get me wrong - fuck Russia. But this is wrong.
Thank you for your thoughtful question.
My response was probably very emotional in that I took the infantry role very personally. There is a million ways for a grunt to get taken out in battle. However, mostly each combatant takes a measure of risk - including pilots and artillerymen. In the case of drone operators you could be blown up by some cunt sitting in his pajamas taking no personal risk in the fight.
Don’t bother arguing that this also can happen in a score of different scenarios - I get it. This is an emotional reaction, but feel the same as for IEDs. Australia banned the use of landmines under the Ottawa Treaty for this reason in 1999.
I don’t expect much support for this view, and that’s cool. It just seems cowardly.
As a former infantryman I have great difficulty watching these drone videos.
Don’t at me about the rights and wrongs of the wider conflict, and I agree that the Russians shouldn’t be there. But don’t forget, these cheap grunt killers will be coming at your servicemen in future conflicts.
The final image you will see of a loved and respected brother or sister will be a panicked, screaming US soldier trying to outrun an explosive toy. No doubt about it.
This. I hate the stuff. Can’t sleep and get a killer case of restless legs.
I am prone to respiratory complaints, it’s my weakness. However, I’d rather have that misery than pseudoephedrine.