We fixed the attribution. Now usernames show up as /u/<user>@<server> (rather than earlier /u/<user> and no server). Also the server name can be seen in the right bar.
Since we fixed what bothered you the most, can you not make the posts encouraging others to de-federate? If something bothers others, let them make a post or talk to me and I can address their issues. Is that fair expectation?
We fixed the attribution. Now usernames show up as /u/<user>@<server> (rather than earlier /u/<user> and no server). Also the server name can be seen in the right bar. Let me know if this fixes the main issue you had.
Also for a deadline of federation will you be ok if I commit to doing it before we have 100 active users a month? (since our comments are federated out, it is easy to see how many active users we have. I can also report whenever someone asks).
A few others have expressed concerns with attribution. So as suggested we will be changing username from /u/xyz to /u/xyz@domain.com . I hope that addresses your concern.
As you know, the comments are federated. Also, our development was blocked due to sublinks development being blocked. Also as I mentioned elsewhere we have 10 users with no posts, so users are missing out on exactly 0 posts. I am not having it both ways. At present we are sharing what we have (comments and 0 posts).
Also, we are working on making it better. I agree definition of fairness varies, but giving some time to new instances, especially the ones who are developing from scratch, is fairly reasonable. Let’s say average 1 comment a day (i.e. 30 comments a month) can be seen by everyone (as we are federating) and is a very basic ask without hurting any other instances in community.
This is based on what feels fair to you and not a documented rule. The issue is that everyone has their own version of what is fair - federate out, self hosted, open source, attribution, usernames shown in particular way, exemption (or no exemption) for smaller sites based on time or traffic and so on.
In any case, this is a goal we are working towards. As we discussed before, this will be done before ClubsAll has any meaningful traffic.
Thank you. I will read it in detail and try to understand how to fix it. I am hoping this is easier fix than implementing federation out, so maybe I can have someone do this sooner.
I am creator of ClubsAll, can you ELI5 this to me. What is attribution with canonical tags and how does that break SEO for others?
I am the creator of ClubsAll. Thank you for very well thought out and objective post. I am absolutely 110% hoping to create a better Fediverse alternative to lemmy.
While I am doing that, community support is highly appreciated. Thank you again.
Please see my updates. Let me know if my proposal is fair.
Hello @baggachipz@sh.itjust.works are there some documented rules of federation that I am missing? Please point me.
Hi there, I am creator of clubsall. We absolutely do care about community.
There were many discussion few months ago. There were also private discussions with some admins. Because we are not lemmy based, so our development takes time (plus my developer left, plus we were trying to move to sublinks which itself has federation issues). So federation for us is not a config setting. Also, we are a very niche site with almost no traffic.
Additionally, different admins feel different rules are fair, so it is hard for us to know how to be good community members. I request a common set of rules, preferably based on traffic, so any newbie can get the breathing room to develop and participate. Does that sound fair?
Our challenge has been that many people feel differently to what is fair. So I have been requesting if all admins can agree to a common set of rules so we can comply with it and be upstanding community members. Is that reasonable request?
Thank you. I request the defederation being traffic based rather than time based. Would that be fair?
Hi there, I am creator of clubsall.
Please see my updates. We are not intentionally blocking federation, we just do not have that capability (as we are not a lemmy instance). So I am requesting common fair set of rules, so I can save clubsall.
You have a reasonable argument that it is not possible for everyone to come up with common rules.
The issue is that there are numerous posts instigating and encouraging everyone to defederate. But without a clear definition of what is acceptable. In other words, this approach makes it very hard for anyone from building anything new and participate in federation. So this seems against the goal of “open network” and discourage others from doing anything new.
If that is the goal, then I cannot really win here. If that is not the goal, then I ask not to make such posts and not to encourage everyone to defederate. Anyone who has an issue can reach out to me and I can address their concerns.
Is that reasonable?