• trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Many people have a preference for civility politics. They prefer negative peace over a positive justice. They have similar reactions when vegan animal rights activists point out things that trigger their cognitive dissonance.

    Thankfully, their pissing and moaning about these groups still bring more attention to these urgent issues than quietly begging for justice ever has, so even if they don’t like it, these kinds of stunts are still effective.

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        That’s cause those are the instances that the media decided to put on blast. They were also dumping paint on CEO’s cars and in corporate lobbies.

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          I love that. Protesting should be annoying for the highest levels of an organization, they dictate policy, they should get the backlash.

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        Understandable. But yeah, unfortunately, activists will likely need to continue doing more outrageous things as time goes on and these issues continue to be unaddressed.

        And if it makes you feel better, those paintings are kept in protective frames, so the art itself has never been damaged to my knowledge. Even still, I’d take a few damaged works of art over an even more irreparably damaged climate.

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    I don’t boo them. But their message is equivalent to “let’s lose over 90% of Earth’s population over a couple of years” which isn’t too popular for some strange reason.

    A better message would be “let’s use all what’s left of fossil energy to build out renewable energy infrastructure and downscale our lifestyles radically, as the time is short”. While still losing a lot of people, but that part is not said aloud.

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    Most people get their opinions from the people around them, and the media they consume. If the media talked about them in a better light, it would change people’s opinions on them. People also hate the idea of being mildly inconvenienced, especially since most of the progress we’ve had from technology has been about improving convenience.

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      Aileen Getty has not personally worked in the oil industry and has poured much of her fortune into philanthropic ventures related to the climate crisis.

      Isn’t this what we want these rich people to be doing?

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        Sure, in theory, but it might be a little naive to start trusting them because of a few good deeds.

        I’m still inclined to believe there’s ulterior motives. The same holds for the charities they choose to patron.

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    So just stop oil then. Who are they asking to “just stop oil”? The people getting rich from it? They’re not gonna stop because you ask nicely. You’re gonna have to make them.

    These people don’t respond to public pressure. They only understand that the line is going up. If you want the line to go down, you’re going to have to increase costs. These industries have a lot of very expensive poorly guarded infrastructure so it really isn’t that hard to increase costs.

    I’m sure most people know that, so again, why don’t you just stop oil then. I’m adverse to long prison sentences so if you’re so passionate for the cause, go nuts.

    But they won’t. They’ll protest and make a fuss and then drive home in their cars like the rest of us. And that’s pretty annoying.

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      Our predicament is not just about the climate catastrophe unfortunately.

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      You’re also going to lose if you don’t do anything. The oil industry sucks. Something needs to happen. Raising awareness is the best first step.