If I have beef with someone, I could punch them and go to jail.

But I can also bully them, humiliate them, degrade them, psychologically annihilate them even, and that’s fine, legallly. Why?

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      5 months ago

      If it’s in the workplace you should actually have more agency to do something through HR, but this depends on where you work…

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        5 months ago

        To clarify: I don’t have an issue. I have a coworker I’d like to punch. The alternative strategies I’m taking because I can’t punch him are leaving me feeling dirty.

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              Because society is so terrified of the technologies we have created that it has adopted the ideal that everything needs to be perfect right here and now, and so any deviation from acting out that Utopian fantasy is met harshly, even though it’s obviously not true to any rational person.

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              You can punch them, but it’s battery. The same way you can mentally assault them, but that’s harassment.

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              “Who deserves it”

              For what reason? You’re being awfully vague here. You’re awfully invested in causing harm to someone for extremely vague reasons.

              Punching him feels dirty because its fucked up. Stop looking for a different avenue to be fucked up that you’re going to be more mentally okay with. Disgusting behavior.

              You are 100% the bully. Normal people don’t seek out ways to cause harm.

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          So you can’t physically abuse your coworker but you can mentally and you want to know if you’re going to get into trouble for doing so?

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            No. Ostracizing just seems soo much more harmful. It seems kinda backwards to me. What’s an acceptable response and what’s not. That’s all.

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          You are right for feeling dirty, maybe reconsider everything about the situation and work on why would you even let hatred be part of your work environment.

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      It’s possible, but unlikely because there needs to be proof and it needs to be extremely serious. That is the reason I mentioned death threats, actually.

      The biggest problem is that even though harassment is clearly defined in my state, “harassment” is still likely subjective.