It shouldn’t be forgiven for releasing in such a broken state. Do we really think the rest of the game industry didn’t notice how well it did? How little they’re willing to do if it means still getting that money rolling in?
Fascinating documentary that slipped through a wormhole from the future
Before Phantom Liberty / 2.0: average game. Overpromised and underdelivered. Good at first but getting boring fast.
After Phantom Liberty / 2.0: very good game overall, fixes most old problems. PL by itself one of the best DLCs ever made, sad that such high quality was necessary to save the base game. It’s like the game was meant to be from the start.
Still not on W3’s level overall though, but if you can get it at reduced price it’s a really good experience now. Start PL before the meeting at Embers. After PL, resume that main quest.
I have it on the PS5 and did four playthroughs already. No other game since the last two Deus Ex games has captured the spirit of cyberpunk so damn well. And with CP77 being open world, it is so easy and nice to immerse yourself in the world. One of my favorite games of all time.
I played at release and you had to do cop shit all the time. Not very punk at all. Had that changed?
It’s very cyberpunk that police work would be outsourced to random mercs.
You know what. Props. In all The Discourse why did I never hear / think of that. It IS cyberpunk af.
Still haven’t played it.
It’s pretty good. I don’t think it’s $30 good. But it’s pretty good, I would put it in the class of interactive fiction, an in-depth visual novel.
As far as role-playing goes, it’s good for LARPing, but you don’t really get to craft your own story. There’s lots of rails, there are narrative branches but they all come back to the same place.
Kind of like a very well done Bethesda narrative environment, some okay storylines, some amazing storylines. It’s all on rails, you can do it in different orders. It’s a good immersion game.
I’m not quite sure you know what LARP means hahaha
Its kind of live action, and you do roleplay whatever you want to be. But yeah I agree it’s not the perfect use of the word.
Cyberpunk is a role-playing game in that you have a role to play, but it is not a role-playing game where you determine your own destiny and have significant impact on the outcome.
I don’t know if there’s better ways to express that thinking, ARPG versus CRPG? But that lacks nuance as well
I quite liked it from the beginning. I played through all of it on PC with the unpatched release version. It was not nearly as buggy as people made it out to be. The story was pretty engaging and made up for a lot of the game‘s flaws.
Similar thoughts here. I was playing it on fairly high end pc as well from day 1 (wasn’t really patient with it… yea…) - Sure there were some funky glitches (eg. occasionally T-posing nude on bikes) here and there, but nothing game breaking. But that’s not to say those things didn’t happen to others, but I’ve understood the game was an absolute shitshow on ps4.
Really enjoyed it, only recently finished a run with expansion and some QOL mods. Excellent visuals (with RTX), and if your into the theme the story was fun and pretty good. Not perfect by any stretch but solid. Gameplay mechanics is fairly engaging after the 2.0 patch.
It is definitely sad it took so long to get to here though, it was broken on launch beyond bugs - the builds you could do pre 1.5 were plain broken.
That said, we should celebrate anyone making single player games these days seriously, it feels like they are getting very thin on the ground.
I played it at release on PS4 and then with Phantom Liberty on XSX. It was awful game with a great story then. Today it’s a pretty good game with one of the greatest stories in this medium. It’s often brought up as a comeback story for CDPR but lack of polish still rears its head in places. For example clothing pieces still have rarity label based on how much defensive stat it gave prior to patch 2.0 (which detached armour rating from the clothes).
one of the greatest stories in this medium
I mean admittedly I don’t read cyberpunk as a genre, but as an avid reader I find that hard to believe. My two standout sub-stories are the intro heist and the expansion’s main story, and while those are awesome, they’re not exactly literary masterpieces. The rest of the game’s story is… amateurish? But not in a bad way? Like, it’s servicable as the thin motivational veneer you expect from an open world game, and doesn’t stand out either way, which is more or less what you want from your open world story: To not get in the way. The last few parts are quite bad though and show how much the story must have been cut apart and pieced together to fit a release date.
Is it really outstandingly good comparing other cyberpunk works?
I was mostly talking about Phantom Liberty part - it is much more interesting and better executed than anything in the base game.
Oh yeah definitely. The expansion was such a cool thing, and the limited scope really helps it rather than hurting it.
I’m a HUGE cyberpunk fan, so I made the mistake of buying it at release. Some of my most impressive issues:
- Trees would draw “on top” or in front of everything else, even when blocked by other objects. So in greener areas, my entire screen was filled with trees.
- The scripted driving sequences would get me stuck in “driving mode” about half the time after the scripted sequence is over. So I’d be walking around like a car, not able to strafe or jump.
So, I refunded it, outside of the refund period, but they were nice to me.
When the expansion released, and everything seemed a LOT better, I bought the game again, and I loved it! It’s a pretty OK game, with a great story and absolutely amazing sidequests.
I’ve played through the normal game and the expansion. I loved the universe, but the gameplay isn’t so great to be honest.
Also I often struggled with dialogues, selecting one sentence and not understanding why I’d have to kill everyone around after making this choice (Maman Brigitte for instance). But this might be just me😇
I recommend playing these games and I’ll play both at least twice.
::: mild spoilers ahead
It did seem strange how poorly things end with the voodoo boys. You can get out without a fight, but you can’t make any friends. It seems to me like asides from kinda betraying you, they’d make for pretty natural allies against netsec and Arasaka.
:::So no, I don’t think that was just you.
Just a heads up, your spoiler is broken (you’re missing the first spoiler keyword).
Thanks, fixed!
Difficult.
I gave up on it initially, annoyed by it’s deluge of bugs coupled with the overall tepid and empty-feeling design.
I gave it a serious go a year ago after also getting the expansion. I wanted to not use any mods but ended up having to use one anyways, as CDPR still couldn’t be arsed to fix some keys being hardcoded so changing your keyboard layout is annoying as stuff gets in the way. Luckily, fans fixed that issue and made all keys rebindable. <3
I will say… I enjoyed it. It’s nothing superb to me, but it was a thoroughly enjoyable romp. It’s big upside were the visual design, in particular during the expansion and its high points like the top floor of the tower or the sequence at the space port, the great voicework and Songbird in particular and when you meet her. I also liked the expansion and the tutorial stories a lot.
It’s weak points to me were the open world itself which feels pointless and a thin, lifeless, facade plus the main story itself. Character progression was also super broken back in the days but by the time I played felt a lot better, so I’m not really holding it against the game. That being said, there were still quite a lot of bugs and glitches. Nothing major a reload here or there could not fix, but still considering how long the game has been out.So yeah, solid 7/10 for me. The expansion is fantastic, wish the whole game were like that!
It’s a work of art, one of my favorite games (and dlc included).
I have a strong PC and play in 4k tho, with tons of mods to improve stuff or change some mechanics. Better textures and loads of clothes as well.
I finished the game several times and have probably more than 100h in it. I still play regularly to simply enjoy life in Night City, and kill some dudes…
I’m in love with that game and I believe anybody should play it at least once in life.
Any mod reccos? I started it before the DLC and only played for like four hours.
I like the ones that add a second operating system cyberware. It can be seen as cheating but you can have a netrunner deck and a sandevistan at the same time (or whatever double cybwrware you want to play with).
I think it’s cyberware EX. I use the collection function of Nexus mods (ordered by rating) so I don’t have to hand manage hundreds of mods.
Thank yoooou!
I don’t want to put you down or anything, but this is very surprising to me. 100+ hours from multiple play throughs feels really small to me. You clearly love the game. So I am wondering why was your first time so short? When I love a game, I want to experience as much of the content as I can in my first playthrough. It took me 185 hours to finish Cyberpunk 2077 without the DLC. I haven’t played that one yet. I am waiting for a new PC so that I can play the game on max settings.
I’m with this. Totally agree.
What game is there that does this kind of gameplay better?
Only the original Deus Ex has captured this genre so well.
The Revision mod made DE even better.
Worth a replay with it on if you haven’t already
What are the chances, I was just looking into installing it again. Here’s a handy article I found about the various mods, for those interested.
I tried it for the first time this year, I put in around 10 hours to try and get into it and honestly I found it pretty dull. I didn’t think the combat felt particularly satisfying and the story as far as I got in it did nothing to interest me or draw me in.
I’m not saying it is a bad game because I certainly dont think that but for me personally just nothing clicked, it felt like a slog just to get through the 10 or so hours I put in and I dont have enough time to force myself to like games any more so I just moved on.
Don’t forget to save the man with the burning crotch!
