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    “My kids don’t want to hang out with me after I dismissed their opinions as a mental disorder and the party I voted for tries to control their bodies! Why must I suffer? I didn’t do anything to them directly! These kids today are so unfaaaair!”

    What a jackass.

    I hope his kids have a great holiday. Good on them for standing up for their beliefs.

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    Idk who needs to hear this but:

    Your children don’t owe you self assurance, if they chose to cut contact with you fully then that’s their right.

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    “I let them”

    Dudes showing internally he thinks he controls their votes. That he could’ve not let them had he chosen so.

    So his daughters should be thankful for such a benevolent patriarch. /S

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      He clearly said in context “I let them vote in peace without objection or argument frome me”. Kind of like how I can either let your comment go or choose to respond without claiming to have control over you. The man is still ignorant AF though.

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      Well it’s kind of semantics. The symbolism behind this is not the hill you’d want to die on. Letting somebody do something can either be allowing it or simply not disallowing it. I hate Trump and his low IQ followers, but that sentence does not imply anything.

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        can either be allowing it or simply not disallowing it

        Exactly.

        When I go take a shit, did you allow it, or not disallow it? Neither, because you have no agency over me, so it’d be a stupid fucking sentence.

        I’m not saying he thinks he owns his daughters like some 16th century inbred minor noble.

        But connotations and implications can exist even when they weren’t particularly intentional by the writer (or speaker.)

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    Slightly off topic:

    When my parents divorced, I was bummed out that I had to attend two thanksgiving dinners. The second was not turkey. We charred hot dogs over an open fire (lived in the midwest at the time) and made smores. It was pretty great.

    This had nothing to do with the election. It’s just a nice memory.

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    There’s clearly more to this story. The simple fact that his username is “Conservative” indicates that he is one of those people that make their political ideology a major part of their identity.

    This man is probably an insufferable ass.

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      Or he’s making it up.

      I made my mother cry because she voted for Trump and I expressed my disapproval. She called my sister, who also voted for Harris, and my sister made her cry a second time.

      We’re all having dinner tomorrow and we won’t bring up politics.

      It’s fucking stupid to turn your back on your family over politics.

      I think my mom made a stupid decision. Oh well. She thinks I made a stupid decision.

      If your politics define you so much that you abandon your people or you’re not disciplined enough to keep your mouth shut at family events where you’ll convince no one, that’s on you.

      They bring it up and end up having a bad day, that’s on them. We simply agree to avoid politics and religion. It’s not that hard.

      Edit: We’re doomed. We really are.

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        Unfortunately, my continued existence is labeled as “politics” so no, someone who voted against my rights to exist is not my family anymore.

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          The genders: male and political. The colours: white and political. The sexualities: straight and political.

          Yet somehow the most common politician is straight white male.

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        It’s fucking stupid to turn your back on your family over politics

        It’s really not. Politics determine your opinions and intentions regarding human rights and its violations. If my dad votes for Robodolf Mechahitler, he’s not my dad anymore. Someone voting for Trump would likely betray their own daughter when Gilead rises. If they wouldn’t, their vote is a contradiction to their character. I wouldn’t take something like this lightly.

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        You know what we call Germans who disagreed with Hitler on some issues and yet still supported him?

        Nazis.

        Nobody cares, or will ever remember anything other than that.

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          I guarantee the same thing was happening back then, people cutting off their family members because they supported a fascist dictatorship

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        It’s absolutely not stupid to turn your back on family because of politics.

        It’s not a sports team, it’s conscious decisions that affect the law and how we are governed.

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        It’s fucking stupid to turn your back on your family over politics.

        Right? Which is why the person in the original post shouldn’t have voted for the guy that wants to take away the rights of his daughters. By voting for Trump, he chose politics over family, not his daughters.

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        You aren’t the voice of reason you think you are.

        I guarantee the same exact shit was happening in the 1930s. People being disgusted that their family members would side with fascism and turn on mentally ill, Jewish, and gays.

        Would you say the same thing about Germans turning on their family? Both leaders fought for turning their country into a fascist dictatorship best strips liberties from certain people only

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        It’s fucking stupid to turn your back on your family over politics.

        I think my mom made a stupid decision. Oh well. She thinks I made a stupid decision.

        If your politics define you so much that you abandon your people or you’re not disciplined enough to keep your mouth shut at family events where you’ll convince no one, that’s on you.

        Yes. It is fucking stupid.

        But you know what’s worse? Supporting a political party over your daughters, who are facing the very real possibility they will have to die simply because of a miscarriage, or no longer having the right to vote. That they will be forced to carry the baby of their rapist. that their daughters may no be entitled to an education- even the shitty ones now provided- the same way they were.

        Facing those threats… because you voted for that political party.

        They’re not staying away, or “turning their back” on family because of politics. They’re doing so because his politics objectively suck and absolutely will bring harm to them and millions like them. (that is. women. Not to mention racial minorities, immigrants, anyone whose different from the white, cisgendered, conservative male arch type.)

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          It’s so interesting to see the complete disconnection on here with everyone else’s life.

          his politics objectively suck and absolutely will bring harm to them and millions like them. (that is. women. Not to mention racial minorities, immigrants, anyone whose different from the white, cisgendered, conservative male arch type.)

          will, will bring harm. Not talking about past harm, not even mentioning current harm. Just FUTURE harm. All of the middle class people on here are just fucking hilarious with their world views. If you’re wondering why most of the population sits out of voting, well you’re never going to see it. Cue the average ivory tower response,

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            Sure I’m going to go over a waterfall as soon as I go around that bend in the river up there, but why should I get my canoe out of the water now? I mean, everyone knows if a problem is in the future it doesn’t really exist!

            FYI, dude, it’s not in the future. Women are dying from miscarriages now. Racially-motivated assaults are on the rise now. Nazis are marching through the streets now. Orange Hitler and his Project 2025 cabinet wants to just bring this bullshit nationwide, and they will do so.

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              I’m assuming everyone was confusing my statement as some type of pro-trump comment or dismissal of the election results?

              I was literally talking about everything you just stated. Everyone is worried about what the Trump presidency is bringing when we are already there in terms of disparaging and effecting the population with our government’s actions. Everyone’s holding their breaths and speculating on what the next presidency will bring while completely ignoring all the crisis’s that are on-going currently.

              I’m also flabbergasted that everyone is afraid of what the trump presidency will bring while those same problems have happened for generations and like they don’t currently exist. I suppose people just want to be outraged and I’m not helping with pointing out he’s just making a horrible system become that much worse. These problems existed before Trump for most of the populace.

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        God damn. I find centrists to be spineless pussies of the highest order.

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        Drag wishes there were fewer people in the world willing to set aside politics for family. People like that are destroying the world.

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      I have a family member that doesn’t get this (thankfully just the one). It’s not that he voted for Trump, it’s all the shit he says. The casual “haha jk” racism when I introduced him to a Hispanic friend of mine. The fact that he will loudly talk about some things specifically to upset or annoy people. The fact that he thinks politics is a team sport and Trump’s win is a personal victory for him that somehow means he “beat” the rest of us.

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        “It’s not because you voted for Trump. It’s because you’re the kind of person who would vote for Trump.”

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            Yup, my family likely all voted for Trump, yet they all strongly dislike Trump, they just want to see the country move in a more fiscally conservative direction. Democrats don’t offer that, and Republicans give it enough lip service to convince them.

            My family are absolutely good people, have LGBT friends and whatnot, and don’t care at all about “MAGA” crap.

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      It works on the other side too - e.g. “I’m vegan btw, and voting to restrict access to your ability to eat meat”.

      The difference seems to be that there was no incentive for Putin to set vegans vs. meat eaters against one another, while he very much is getting a ton out of having set conservatives against liberals. Whatever way we choose to fight one another, he wins.

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        Uh…who’s voting to restrict access to meat again? What rights are “the other side” trying to restrict?

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        It works on the other side too - e.g. “I’m vegan btw, and voting to restrict access to your ability to eat meat”.

        Who’s doing this?

        The difference seems to be that there was no incentive for Putin to set vegans vs. meat eaters against one another,

        Oh, you sweet summer child.

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    “I voted for the idea that women aren’t people, now the women in my life don’t like me.”

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    “I openly voted against the interests of my own children and also openly claim they have a mental disorder for their views.”

    Get fucked.

    These people really are clueless. No appreciation at all for how their actions affect others. They get surprised when people stop putting themselves in harms way by simply not being around them.

    Want your family back? Realize that what you think is some free speech populist revolution is just an excuse for a lot of people to be assholes and expect no consequences.

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      to be fair, democrats think voting for trump is a mental illness too.

      not on anyone’s side here, just pointing out the hypocrisy

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        Hypocrisy is clutching your pearls and virtue signalling “Christian conservative values” while worshipping a “grab-em-by-the-pussy” false-profit who is the closest thing to the antichrist in living memory.

        So yeah, only one of those groups has a literal mental illness, and they are also the hypocrites.

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        It’s not that Trumpism is a mental illness, more like you need to have a mental illness to be a Trump supporter.

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          this is no different than the right calling the left mentally ill.

          both of you think you’re right, and I think the real answer is nobody is right.

          “As a rule, strong feelings about issues do not emerge from deep understanding.”

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            The dictators claims that all of their political opponents are terrorists is not analogous or equally valid to the terrorized political opponents calling the dictator a terrorist. If you can’t comprehend how those two groups are different — the logical separation between the conman who lies about everything and terrorizes his opponents, and every group he chooses to terrorize — then you either have the mental illness, or are most at risk to the propaganda (and future mental illness).

            Pro tip! Only a fascist opposes ANTI-FAscism.

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    “Now I have been informed that all three children are boycotting thanksgiving”.

    Hmm, maybe it has something to do with shit talking them on twitter. Maybe, and this is just a guess, the family gatherings are not politics free zones but full of conspiracies and drama and more shit talking. Just a guess. But none of this is his fault, it’s those damn brainwashed libruls who are spoiling his fun. Now how is he going to do his trump victory lap if his daughters stay away?

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      Pretty sure they’re not boycotting thanksgiving and just boycotting him. They’ll probably have the best thanksgiving together in years.

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    If I was told this by someone in private I would at least be sympathetic, but blasting your children in a public forum is like yelling in walmart. I just can’t view you as any semblance of a good person if you’re publically taking the “eternal victim” stance.

    Like, the expected outcome for this rube is that an echo chamber shits on his kids. Gee I wonder why his kids don’t like him, must be mental illness.

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    Well, golly gee, he “let” his independent, grown-ass adult offspring vote for the candidate of their own choosing. I can’t imagine why they’d spurn him after such selfless and generous act.

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    With lines like “[your political opinion] is a mental disorder”, why is he surprised they aren’t coming?

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        Touché

        It’s kinda sad that we ended up in this political division. It’s also sad that increasing hate and and anxiety (and missing education and reasoning) fuels this dumpfire of societal development. That doesn’t really increase hope in the future, as stuff like climate change further accelerates this…

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          I don’t see it so much a political division as it is that most of the world is simply not very intelligent.

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          I’m just pointing out that both sides think the other is dumb.

          And I don’t think either side is correct.

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            And this is exactly why I don’t affiliate with either major party.

            I used to consider myself Republican because I was frustrated at the majority party (Democrat) always messing stuff up in my home state. I ended up moving for school to a red state, and the majority party there was always messing stuff up. It was then I realized that the problem isn’t with one party, it’s with politics in general.

            I registered with the largest third party in my state (happens to be Libertarian) and I vote for whatever candidate I think is least bad. In 2016, that was Gary Johnson, in 2020 it was Joe Biden, and in 2024 it was Chase Oliver. It doesn’t really matter who I vote for because the R candidate will always win with at least 20% margin, so I vote my conscience.

            I’m not saying both sides are the same, I’m saying both sides age liars and massive disappointments.

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    Ah the classic:

    “Your behaviour has harmed me, so I do not wish to see you anymore”

    “No, wrong, it is YOUR behaviour in saying this that has harmed ME”