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I loved Waterworld as a kid and it was a flop apparently.
Not as extreme as the case in the OP, but I’m often surprised how “meh” a reaction Don’t Look Up got. Maybe people think it was heavy handed? Too on the nose? I don’t know but most folks seem to think it was at best merely “okay”.
For me, I place it next to Idiocracy as one of the most prescient films about what is in store for us. I think after this last election day, it seems even more prescient. On top of that, it is legitimately funny with really good performances, especially from Jennifer Lawrence.
Yeah, in my case this one was too close to home for me to love it. 10 or 20 years ago I probably would’ve felt differently. Similar for Idiocracy, I don’t think I’d feel the same way about it if it came out today. Kinda chilling when I think about that, honestly.
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Yeah, I’d call it heavy handed. It felt like it was a message first. Not as bad as the Daily Wire stuff, but going down that road. Even if I agree with the message, it felt contrived.
Just my two cents though.
That’s what I saw on reddit only for a week later to see someone argue that it’s not about climate change because it’s literally about a meteor.
So there you go, you probably weren’t the target audience
it makes sense to me. if the movie was supposed to be about climate change, why wouldn’t they make it about climate change?
is that something people do? make a comparison between two things, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification?
@affiliate @kameecoding It’s called an allegory, it can make what’s being compared to easier to accept or understand
Super Mario Bros (1993) is this movie for me … it’s weird as hell and it’s adherence to the source material is … iffy at best … but god damn if it wasn’t a fun ride!
Then you read about how everyone hated the directors so much they literally got drunk on set and openly wore custom made shirts with slogans about how bad the directors were AND Bob Haskins was in a cast for most of it for an injury on set and it gets even more fascinating! The Directors poured hot coffee on people and just openly belittled everyone. It’s insane!
As a kid, I couldn’t believe how funny Wild Wild West is
Star Wars: The Last Jedi
I saw it the day it came out and thought it was a brilliant departure from the macguffin-based plots that had come before, and it showed so many different things that had never been in a Star Wars movie before.
Turns out all Star Wars fans want is more of the exact same that had been in the previous 7 movies.
I agree with the other guy somewhat - take out a lot of the casino scene and it’s the best star wars movie so far.
I’m pissed Johnson isn’t going to get the trilogy he was promised. Instead, we got Abrams making the most corporate star wars to date, and that’s saying something
The casino scene is the crux of the movie. The main character - Rose - is a loyal soldier who stops a deserter ‘or her sister died for nothing.’ Planet Capitalism is where she’s disillusioned by war profiteers and makes the unsubtle decision to free their animals. By the end she prevents said deserter from repeating her sister’s sacrifice.
The Last Jedi is an anarchist critique of of Star Wars where a rebel soldier rejects the old lie.
I have no fucking idea how Disney decided to produce it as an actual Star Wars film.
This has won me over. I was kinda meh about it outside of the nice visuals, but this clicked it together for me.
Thank you.
Years later, I’m still flabbergasted this isn’t the default take. The movie has deep problems, but the themes are right there in your face.
The only way it doesn’t put “anyone can be a hero” onscreen in eight-foot-tall letters is the ending. Which sure feels like Disney checked in, went “Oh SHIT,” and forced a sudden fourth act that over-corrects back toward the status quo.
Imagine if Rey hadn’t arrived on Krait. Kylo offers her the universe, she inhales to answer, hard cut. We don’t see either of them until the next movie. Instead, when the last gasp of the Rebellion was pushed deep into the caves, some rando side character saves them. A nobody with significant screen time watches the whimsical native fauna casually nudge giant boulders, and decides to just fuckin’ try. In an ideal reading, this character would not have dialog. She would not even have a name. Who she is aggressively does not matter. Only that she understood what Luke said and Rey ignored: the Force is in all living things.
Nobody can own that.
Honestly I loved both the direction that Rian Johnson clearly wanted to take the sequels and I loved the direction that JJ Abrams clearly wanted to take the sequels and I honestly wish Disney had just stuck with one of them for the entire trilogy and let the other do a trilogy as well. We all know how badly Disney wanted to pump out a Star Wars film every year during that timeframe so that way they could’ve had their cake and eaten it too
I thought it was alright. One thing that really bugged me is that if you’re chasing someone in space why not call another ship to cut them off, or just… fly faster. Idk it didn’t make a lot of sense to me lol
If you remove the whole space casino bit, I would agree with you.
If they had completely scrapped the casino arc it would fix so many problems. Not only would that shitty, worthless sequence not exist, but they would’ve had screen time to put in more quality stuff. Imagine if at the end of the movie the big reveal was that Palpatine was alive. Instead, they had to put that into a messy scroller at the beginning of the third movie.
Or they could just not bring back literally the most boring villain possible.
And I want to be very clear that I’m not saying the Emperor is the most boring villain in cinema history, even though he is. I’m saying he’s the most boring villain possible.
When he was introduced in the original trilogy he was a nameless old man in a robe. Defining characteristics? None. Voice? Evil. Face? Evil. Motivation? Evil. Outfit? Featureless robe, black because he’s evil.
The best part about The Last Jedi was that they were fixing the downgrade that RotJ made of replacing the most badass movie villain of all time with – I can’t stress this enough – the most boring villain possible. TLJ killed the Emperor stand-in and set Kylo Ren up as the real villain. That was exciting.
But then they let fan forums write the third movie, and somehow, the Emperor came back.
The original trilogy is over-rated.
There, I said it.
First movie is 100% forgettable by today’s standards. Empire Strikes Back is a great sci-fi movie by any standard, and Return of the Jedi is totally a lackluster finale. I think I agree with you
I have a friend who recommends literally every single thing he watches. He’ll watch the stupidest movie in the world and be like “wow, that was awesome!”. I envy how much enjoyment he can receive from terrible movies and TV shows.
i feel like it’s much harder when you finish a movie, and you hate it, and then find out it’s one of the most critically acclaimed movies of all time.
this was my experience watching taxi driver. to this day, i have not been able to find a single other person who disliked that movie as much as i did
I’ll never not like Waterworld
Like most, I totally disagree. However, it had such great potential.
I feel the same about Valerian. The imagery was pure eye candy and then I watched it, so looking forward to a great flick, and what I got was… Valerian.
The setting and design in Valerian is fantastic. The opening sequence really is among the best in film. Shame about the plot and main characters.
The plot was bad, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a movie close to how bad the romantic chemistry was between the main characters. There was negative chemistry, in fact they felt more like brother and sister which just made the whole thing creepy.
I love Reign of Fire. And honestly I think the CGI has held up surprisingly well for a 2002 movie (although not at all perfect).
6.2/10 IMBD, 41% critic/49% audience on Rotten Tomatoes.
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