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    Apparently you just have to kill a ceo in public and dozens of cops will come make sure you don’t get suicided before the state does it.

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    Collect all your evidence into one large archive, upload it somewhere and make it known that if you die of anything other than natural causes, that information will become available to EVERYONE.

    Read up on how “dead man’s switches” work. If you don’t send a signal online, log into a particular account on a regular basis, that sends the release signal.

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      But why bother holding back in the first place. If this is whistleblower information like Boeing safety issues, there’s no point in setting up a dead man’s switch. You want to release it all immediately in the first place, because keeping it to yourself undermines the point of blowing the whistle

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        Then the incentive becomes to stop a whistleblower faster if they had a dead-man cache than if they released it all at once. There’s no guarantee that the whistleblower is being honest or is capable enough to undertake something like that but there’s always a risk that the whistleblower may disclose that information anyway. Better to stop the whistleblower by arresting them first and deal with the potential fallout than negotiate. Now the whistleblower’s reputation is ruined, if they’re behind bars they’re effectively silenced, and they’re as good as dead to society without all that messy work trying to fake a suicide.

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    While it won’t help you getting suicided, setting up a deadman’s switch on the cloud that will release your testimony is definitely worth doing.

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      Additionally, give a copy of all the documents to your lawyer to release in the case of your death. Multiple Deadman switches are better than one, especially one that’s controlled by a person and not just hoping your cloud service doesn’t go down after you’re dead.

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      With whistleblower information, why hold it back in the first place? Wouldn’t it be better to release it immediately if they might kill you either way?

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        IIRC the problem there is that it potentially makes you liable to be sued by the company for disclosing negative/private information. But they can’t exactly hold you liable if you’re dead, so if you’re dead you may as well speak what you know from beyond the grave.

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    Human beings are fragile creatures. Big corps generally don’t need to make the big effort of a murder and a cover-up when they can almost completely legally harass people into taking their own lives.

    To that end? Get a good therapist and a psych. Preferably not on workplace insurance, if such a thing is feasible for the situation.

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    Man, lots of crazy, unrealistic advice here.

    One person literally said to live in a motel. No, do not live alone.

    The answer is pretty simple, live in a community house with like 8 other people.

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      8 potential aids for your murder.

      They just have to say: “I give you 1.000.000 bucks if you give this food to that person, it will look like a bad flu and you’ll get the money”. If one rejects the offer there’s 7 more to do so.

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        I said community. Thats no community if your friends would take money to kill you.

        Have you ever lived in a community?

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            Ive lived in a lot of communities. Certainly there’s drama, especially with house-cest.

            But comparing that to people literally taking money to kill each other is ridiculous lol

            Worst I’ve seen is rape (sadly common). And you bet that rapist was physcially kicked out almost immediately

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    Despite all precautions, if you are one of the few persons whose circumstances could allow the leak, then they’ll narrow it down to you. Especially if you were the reluctant one, the one that raised ethical issues etc…

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    Amongst everything others have said, if you get sucked into an interview or press conference, directly and firmly state that, for the record, you are not suicidal and that if you should die, it was absolutely not suicide. You believe that you’ve become a target and fear for your safety and life.

    It doesn’t matter if you believe yourself to be a target in the privacy of your head. Always say that you are early, often, loudly, and to anyone who will listen.

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          Does it really matter that much? I figure either way they’re going to get you if they want and the media will treat it like a suicide regardless of how much you publicly telegraph what’s going to happen ahead of time.

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            Yes of course it matters. If he wasn’t lying and acting like an insane criminal for a decade or so, people would be inclined to believe him.

            The guy acted like people with your same thought process could magically absolve him of his crimes and lies because he made a wild claim that he would be killed. He hadn’t said a goddamned thing for years pertaining to himself that was true. He was a lunatic and a murderer (rapist too iirc?). It makes all the sense in the world he would be lying about expecting to be killed too

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              directly and firmly state that, for the record, you are not suicidal and that if you should die, it was absolutely not suicide.

              He did exactly what was suggested here. It was ignored and dismissed in all mainstream coverage of his death, and you are also dismissing it as a lie, with no specific evidence other than his apparently otherwise questionable character. It’s naive to think that such a narrative wouldn’t also be applied to anyone else trying to defend themselves in this way, of course it would be.

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                I watched a documentary about the guy which turned out to be mostly about the bizarre lies he told. He was a fucking nutcase, devoid of reasons of ever consider believing his horseshit. And he liked fucking underage women so much he fled countries that didn’t let him do that. Insane scumbags don’t make my sympathy list but apparently you’re looking for opps to defend them so congrats

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                  I’m arguing that saying you won’t kill yourself and are likely to be assassinated is not a foolproof method, not defending Mcafee

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    Don’t leak. Spread seldom rumours online about the company with plausible deniability. Find a crazy-er person and/or group. Continue spreading dots. Spread info to Youtubers. Others with a platform. Use a VM, a password manager inside the VM. After 12 months, delete all your credentials and the VM. The system can not protect you. Corps rule democracy. Don’t trust the system. Spread the info until it reaches critical mass or the faith in the system collapses. Your life is worth more than some righteous leak. See the Pentagon Papers life. He lived a very humble life afterwards.

    NOTE: method untested and invented just now.

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      wouldnt it just drown with all the insane crap the crackpots spew anyway and become tainted by association with them? But yeah, you definitely shouldnt use your own name and should spread the leak all over.

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    I wonder if giving the information to the coporations competitor (as anonymously as possible of course) would do anything good? Try to turn the corps against eachother. At least you would know if they are secretly in league if the competitor doesnt expose them.

    Also, i think anyone who is in position to do something like this should try to find more like minded people and continue as a group. Even then its dangerous but much less so than alone since there are more people to help. You wouldnt resist enemy occupation alone and expect to live long either.

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      This likely wouldnt work because that corporation could get in trouble for corporate espianoge. Some guy reportedly stole the recipe for cococola and tried to sell it to pepsi and they ratted him out

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    Was just looking at something like how to execute on that this morning as my morning coffee dive down an internet rabbit hole.

    There’s this guy named Michael Bazzell who used to make a podcast about stuff like this, and he also wrote a book called Extreme Privacy that I thumbed through this morning. He talks about where to go to get a ghost address, how to buy and set up a cell phone to be virtually anonymous, how to buy a house anonymously or how to re-title your car to a trust or LLC, and pretty much everything in between. Even talks about what information to not divulge when you go to the ER and details what to consider you put on your kids birth certificate.

    So if anyone is paranoid enough to know how to avoid getting suicided, I’m going to bet on this guy’s advice

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        His podcast ended and he’s worked to remove them where possible. While I don’t know if there are archives of it I can vouch for the quality of his books. They receive updates throughout the year and are step by step guides on how to lock down certain aspects of your life. Its worth purchasing.

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    Do

    • Live on cash from different ATMs;
    • Stay at a hotel/motel that changes weekly;
    • Rent a car and change it at different rental locations every week;
    • Communicate only with your lawyer;
    • Record everything in an official manner as soon as possible.
    • Stay offline
    • Get a dumb phone, and if you must have a computer get a new laptop with no wifi or mobile data hardware;

    Do Not

    • Go anywhere you don’t need to go;
    • Tell anyone where you are;
    • Go to the middle of nowhere, this reduces your escape routes unless you’re Bear Grylls;
    • Confront anyone, they can have you arrested and prison violence makes their job much easier;
    • Go to the news without your lawyer;
    • Use a smartphone, or any device that was yours before and is capable of connecting online;

    And most of all don’t listen to the billy badasses in here. If a multi billion dollar corporation wants you dead and is willing to break the law they can afford a lot of very nasty people. You aren’t getting the tactical training to stand against them in that short amount of time, that takes years and dedication and even then you’ll be learning how to run away in a deadly manner. Your best defense is to be ghost except when you show up for court dates and depositions. That’s what the Secret Service Witness Protection Program does and it works if you have discipline.

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    how’d you find the guy?

    Easy. We had a list of the fifteen or so guys that did that specific part of the job, we got their IP addresses, watched them for a while, and as it turns out, two of them regularly use a VPN and send all of their traffic to Canada.

    How long do you think it would take to figure out whether or not which one of these boys are harmless software pirates, or their man?

    People do all of the work in the world without knowing that your preparation will blow your cover.

    Have you ever visited TailsOS’s website off of a VPN? Could the Feds find out? Do you think the other guys have the same level of deniability?

    That trail is not washing off. You even knowing or having a history of using a Linux iso is suspicion enough if the rest of the suspects are all boring chuds.

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        Not even, it’s just comparing you to the average joe.

        Who’s more suspicious? The dude who visits GitHub, has a Matrix account and visits the arch wiki every six months or the dude who mostly sticks to Facebook talking to his family?

        FBI: …I don’t see anything

        Yeah right.

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            This guy is so into his fantasy he can’t see a joke comment a mile away. Actually wait, he knows Linux i hope he doesn’t hack me :(

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              Haha, yeah, I didn’t notice until after I posted (hence the edit removing the “sorry” portion). Also related:

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      Is this some leet hacker fantasy where you are persecuted for using Linux? Lemmy you never disappoint lmao

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        Shit take but ok.

        If you want to feel inferior for not using Linux, there’s plenty of boards for that.

        Hell, I’ll make you feel inferior right now if you like. How many comments do you want? I’ll go grab my tech meme folder and we can /g/ this place up.